tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post7711479825463049933..comments2023-12-21T22:54:23.131-08:00Comments on Frogsleap Farm: Crosses Between Cherry and Beefsteak TomatoesFrogsleap Farmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11602198688940497329noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-9371866772216420522021-04-06T11:57:49.862-07:002021-04-06T11:57:49.862-07:00Yeah, i just double-checked and had 2 cherry tomat...Yeah, i just double-checked and had 2 cherry tomato plants but only 1 produced Cherie's and the other was mid-size and bursting with flavour, best tomato i ever had.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14547469187651572778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-30485831479768959002021-04-06T11:56:17.303-07:002021-04-06T11:56:17.303-07:00I mean i lost the tag thing that says what type of...I mean i lost the tag thing that says what type of tomatoes now i think of it, i'm not sure exactly what happened but i swear they were supposed to be cherry tomatoes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14547469187651572778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-39445570638914321782021-04-06T11:55:09.535-07:002021-04-06T11:55:09.535-07:00This is really interesting. Last year i grew beefs...This is really interesting. Last year i grew beefsteak beside cherries. I would have swore one of the cherry plants grew way bigger tomatoes than i expected, this is probably why. They were unbelievable too, bursting with juice. Like giant cherry tomatoes that pop when biting into them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14547469187651572778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-54991427598089422962021-01-25T14:46:37.446-08:002021-01-25T14:46:37.446-08:00Hi Robert. Good point. My comment was specific t...Hi Robert. Good point. My comment was specific to crosses between cherries and larger fruited types - as you point out this formula may not apply to crosses between plants in other fruit size categories. I do believe that regardless of fruit size of the parents, the fruit size of the F1 will be skewed toward that of the smaller fruited parent - but there may not be general equation that predicts this accurately.Frogsleap Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11602198688940497329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-27144181235058258002021-01-25T13:17:17.966-08:002021-01-25T13:17:17.966-08:00Final option i can think up, and honestly the one ...Final option i can think up, and honestly the one i feel is most correct.<br /><br />[((larger - smaller) / larger) + 1] * smaller<br /><br />(((25-9)/25)+1)*9=14.76Robert Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10922693944618168375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-1401908824642631522021-01-25T12:59:41.954-08:002021-01-25T12:59:41.954-08:00An even better formula that could scale better wou...An even better formula that could scale better would be.<br />[(25oz * 10%) + (9oz * 190%)] / 2 = 9.8oz<br /><br />More to test i suppose.<br /><br />This would also depend on how you rounded your scale measurements. Your numbers yield 1.4oz with this formula.<br /><br />Only field testing will test tellRobert Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10922693944618168375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-40506767123051773682021-01-25T12:05:13.525-08:002021-01-25T12:05:13.525-08:00This formula doesn't look to be correct. It ma...This formula doesn't look to be correct. It may have given you the same result as your actual results from the field, but let's look at another example.<br /><br />I have a 25oz tomato i grow every year. I would like to increase the size of one of my other varieties, a 9oz tomato. Using your formula let's see what my F1 weight would be.<br /><br />✓(25oz)+✓(9oz) = 8oz<br />8oz/2 = 4oz<br /><br />So my F1 would be smaller than my smallest parent, by a large margin? I don't believe it would. I haven't proven it false in the field, but this doesn't align with the statement you made either.<br /><br />Using your numbers, a better formula would be something like this.<br /><br />(9oz * 10%) + 1oz = ~2oz<br />With 27% of the fruit at this weight of 2oz (12/44 = 27).<br /><br />Using this formal with my fruit sizes, i get.<br /><br />(25oz * 10%) + 9oz = 11.5oz.<br /><br />This is more reasonable i think. Now to test itRobert Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10922693944618168375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-25971179749096494932021-01-25T12:02:50.650-08:002021-01-25T12:02:50.650-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Robert Doehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10922693944618168375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-41950082696751153882015-10-10T17:56:51.819-07:002015-10-10T17:56:51.819-07:00This is really interesting to me. This year I boug...This is really interesting to me. This year I bought some plants that were labeled as 'low acid beefsteak' from a local. They grew up into small dark striped fruits similar to your photo above but smaller and paler, it is pink with pale green thin stripes. One has the beefsteak U double shape to it, but still very small. I am keeping some seed and might experiment in the future. tashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06779660983472964354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800165867433691341.post-68542777820456064782015-09-17T23:03:54.550-07:002015-09-17T23:03:54.550-07:00Interesting to read this great article indeed beca...Interesting to read this great article indeed because I have known many great and new things from you. Thanks a lot one more time. <br /><a href="http://aimsely.com" rel="nofollow">Online journalism programs</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282558638839156658noreply@blogger.com